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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  The Rebel

  O.P " what is the purpose of life?"

  My answer for some " nothing" for others " salvation" and as for me " Iam the purpose of my life"
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  My thoughts on our online community.

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  i will start this o.p by a review of the mental conditioni i find many former or current witnesses at when they join the board :-.

  1. broken relationships.. 2. lonliness/ depression.

  3. guilt / shame .

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  I will start this O.P by a review of the mental conditionI I find many former or current witnesses at when they join the board :-
  

  1. Broken relationships.

  2. Lonliness/ depression

  3. Guilt / shame

  4 Stress/ fear

  So for many it takes a great deal of courage to awaken, and I believe the fear of rejection of family and friends is the hardest stumbling block for many in leaving. However fortunately the Internet has given isolated members the opportunity to exchange doctrinal views and personal fears. Of course doctrinal views can result in heated debate, but the online community is also a place to listen and learn.

  As for myself I occasionally debate on more controversial subjects, but I usually stop posting on a thread when I find it becomes to cut throat ( translation, when I realize I am making a prat of myself) Anyway my point of the OP is this board can be a wonderful social experience, it's fun joking in debates and even having a laugh, but if your are at the early stages of leaving,I think it's best to use the board as a friendly community to assist with the stress/ fear of leaving.

  I say this from past experience, because when I joined I started some controversial posts,and I often made some rush statement, and not by nature being an argumentative person I realized I wasn't helping myself at that stage in my recovery by posting. I then changed my tactic and started OPs that were more relevant to my personal circumstances and I received very thoughtful messages from people who I had never met, and who didn't know me from Adam, and I felt I really got the benifit of an online community.

  So in conclusion in my opinion we can get what we want from this online community, by deciding when we benifit from being armchair readers, or deciding if we want social activity and friendly support. But if we want to engage in heated debates, we need have the stuff to back up our arguments and my final lesson never post late at night after a few drinks:-)

  
  
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  Judical committee flaws

  by Chook in

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  2. beliefs

  if an elder sitting in a jc has a secret sin of a serious nature, his rulings that took place while this sin was unknown are still binding.

  in a court of law of most countries that would be a grounds for appeal.

  regardless i know they are kangaroo courts ,where anyone who has any biblical knowledge knows they can't back up a scriptural reference for a three man tribunal.

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  I think we must understood Judical Comittess are kangaroo courts, to suit congressional needs, financed by a business organisation hiding behind a religion. Therefore reason and justice are not applied. I say this because you assume the assumption that an elder having sat on a J.C whist hiding a secret sin would make the others elders question the decision. This would rarely happen because the elders would have to question the "Holy Spirit" and "ummm" their own " Jehover" given authority to have made a decision with that " Holy Spirit" in the first place.
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  Do you remember 1975? I remember 1984.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if i mention "1984" you will probably think of george orwell and his book " 1984".however i think of "1984" as a year in my life when watford football club reached the f.a cup final.

  ( the f.a cup is the biggest footballing occasion in english sport, and my club " little watford" were in it) but instead of going to watch the game, i was forced by my dad to miss attending the match and prioritize on theocratic w.t study.. so for me the year 1984 was the year i should have woken up to " the truth about the truth" sadly it took another 30 years of generation and doctrinal change before this boy became " awake" and understood his defining moment and realized he was fooled by the w.t.. anyway 1984 was a long time ago, but today in 2016, i realized 1984 had a " modern day 2016 application" that happened last saturday, when i took my boy to watch my " little " watford play "mighty "manchester united" and we won 3.1. now it's wednesday and my boy and i are still on cloud 9, even orlandos school teacher started monday lessons by saying " well done watford ".

  yes little watford outplayed and beat the mighty united.

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  if I mention "1984" you will probably think of George Orwell and his book " 1984".However I think of "1984" as a year in my life when Watford football club reached the F.A cup final. ( The F.A cup is the biggest footballing occasion in English sport, and my club " little watford" were in it) But instead of going to watch the game, I was forced by my dad to miss attending the match and prioritize on theocratic W.T study.

  So for me the year 1984 was the year I should have woken up to " The truth about the truth" Sadly it took another 30 years of generation and doctrinal change before this boy became " awake" and understood his defining moment and realized he was fooled by the W.T.

  Anyway 1984 was a long time ago, but today in 2016, I realized 1984 had a " modern day 2016 application" That happened last Saturday, when I took my boy to watch my " little " Watford play "mighty "Manchester United" and we won 3.1. Now it's Wednesday and my boy and I are still on cloud 9, even Orlandos school teacher started Monday lessons by saying " well done Watford "

  Yes little Watford outplayed and beat the mighty United. This is what life is about, it's not about living with and being fooled by a mighty cult. These leaders are not better than us, and they are not worth picking fights with. So I am glad I have created a new life and I no longer allow the ego of the " mighty " G.B to overshadow that life. So I have moved on,and this prodigal son now says I beat the G.B by finding happiness and moving on in my life...

  If this O.P seems selfish, I would say everytime I see a witness I pity them, but I would be shocked if my reasoning with them will ever work. Jehovers Witnesses are a cult and the call to reason and convincing people they have been fooled by a cult is hard, because they need a defining moment. .My defining moment was 1984, and I believe the trick to helping people out a cult is not 1975, or 1914 generation changes but finding in a cult member their individual reason to move on ...mine was 1984 and a football match a cult made me miss.

  What was yours?
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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  Ruby, interesting post

  The Rebel, Well as its my life I need to get on with it, and put the spaghetti on, bring it to the boil whilst the king size prawns enter the frying pan. I am a lucky guy to have a family who pretend to appreciate my attempts at making spaghetti & king sized prawns" ummm yummy really tastes nice". Now as for tonight I wish my wife would "ummm " she can be magical, if she would just finish reading our boy his good night stories before I am sadly asleep....

  The purpose of life, is not wearing the latest Nike shoes, even the witnesses were right about that. So how does " what is the purpose of life" work? Well I would say, simply have control, because the years go by so fast they can just disappear.

  Anyway we await for Slim to give us the correct answer. Don't we...!!!
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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  The Rebel

  The O.P is" What is the purpose of life?

  Started by poster " Slimboyfat"

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  So what am I doing on this thread?

  Why are you here?

  It's because our legendary Slimboyfat, has found " the purpose of life" which wasn't keeping us in suspense but keeping us thinking on his " deep thoughts" when we are in the toilet, and when we are making love...
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  Big news from Kim and Mikey, they state in thier latest video proof the WT invested in the Nazi war machine!!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is big!

  according to what they say if i'm correct an investigation was done back in 1998 in concerning what american companies invested money in to germany.

  mike and kim state that a document they have attained shows a list of american firms that had invested into germany as late as 1943. on this list is non other then watchtower !!

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  The Rebel

  If you are passionate and sincere about exposing history, then get your facts correct, because history is hard to cover and irresponsible comments are "counterproductive". However if based on facts people don't like history being challenged it's "productive" regardless.
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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  The Rebel

  The purpose of life is the mother in law.

  Slim, put up or shut up, so we can put this thread to bed.
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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  The Rebel

  Slim "Lots of good answers, but no one has mentioned the right answer yet. I haven't got much time today"

  The Rebel :- So slim the answer can be solved and presumably by you? Therefore please make it a talking point when you have time. Its a bizarre thought to even think Slim is to busy to tell us, maybe he is just keeping us in suspense?
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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  The Rebel

  The purpose of life is sadly for some not silence :-)